Dmoz search

[jgalty]

I was just curious how often the dmoz search database is updated i noticed the last update says June 3rd.

[jimnoble]

It's usually every week or so but there have been a few technical issues recently. I can't confidently predict when these will be resolved .

[bobgentry]

I just logged in to ask the same question.

I hope it is not a long term problem.

[hutcheson]

It's a recurrent symptom. Historically, it's nearly always not been a symptom of any particular long-term problem.

[bobgentry]

I see the search is still broken.

Can I offer any programing experience to help fix it?

[pvgool]

Thanks for the offer but that won't be possible. The software is owned and maintained by AOL. Their technical staf is working on the problem and from what I have read it is a major overhaul. Please be patient.

BTW The problem is not in the search itself but in the RDF, the file used to distribute our data.

[miccharlys]

It's usually every week or so but there have been a few technical issues recently. I can't confidently predict when these will be resolved .

 

i hope it will be resolved soon...!!!!

[glt1978]

Couldn't agree more. Guess it won't matter with a month or two, but there is also the problem that if it isn't updated, it will also do worse as a important variable in google's search relevancy tests, and therefore be less relevant in googles search algorithms. And to be honest, the relevancy there is quite a big part of DMOZ relevancy...

[hutcheson]

There are several completely different issues:

 

1) When ODP search is updated. That supposedly happens once in a good week, and zero times in a bad week. That affects the "search" box at dmoz.org, but has no effect on Google at all.

 

2) When Google DIRECTORY is updated. That supposedly happens once in a good month, if there is no problem with the RDF that the ODP generates.

 

3) Google SEARCH doesn't update in a batch. It spiders dmoz.org AND directory.google.org on a regular (maybe daily) basis, and reflects changes almost immediately after that. It doesn't even know about ODP search, and it doesn't know about ANY directory updates, it just checks individual pages on a very regular basis.

 

There's an article by Jean Manco at http://jean.manco.googlepages.com/googleanddmoz -- if you're interested in clearly understanding the concept rather than knowing what happened yesterday afternoon, it's still recommended.

[glt1978]

Thanks, I really enjoyed the read, interesting to read someone that seems to know a bit about what actuall happens instead of passing urban legend. Still doesn't invalidate my theory (urban legend? ) that the main link juice comes from google directory itself, and therefore the export of the files matter.

 

Actually just saw that something is happening with the search, but it seems like (at the moment at least) it only works up to approx world/Denmark and then the rest of the world category is not indexed.

[glt1978]

And now it seemsthe search and the files at rdf.dmoz.org is updated, the only problem is that the data is the same old as 2.june (at least for world/sweden and onwards). Anyone knows what is happening?

[jimnoble]

I expect that AOL's operational staff are experimenting. We humble editors aren't privy to the details of what they're up to .

 

The RDF will be fixed when it's fixed. Is the exact state of progress important to you?

[pvgool]

Instead of trying it yourself every day I would advise to check here atmost once a week, better only once every 2 weeks. When the problem is solved I am sure one of the editors will post a message.

 

> that the main link juice comes from google directory itself, and therefore the export of the files matter.

It doesn't matter for DMOZ. We totaly do not care about links juice or whatever else webmasters think is important for promoting their website. These things is not what DMOZ is about and if anything might happen in this field as a result of a DMOZ listing it is just a nice bonus.

[cmark7]

ATTENTION: DMOZ Search Database Updated

 

DMOZ Search Database Updated:

 

Search database last updated on: Tue Aug 18 17:38:23 EDT 2009

[windharp]

Sorry to disapoint you cmark7, but only the date changed, not the content. See the posts above yours for more details.

[cmark7]

Well, I'm not sure what to say other than sites that weren't listed before are now, in fact, returned in the dmoz search results. Perhaps it was a partial update, but I am seeing changes none-the-less.

[bobgentry]

My site that was added to the database in early July still isn't being found by the search.

At least it app[ears something is now happening.

[fizikce]

Sorry to disapoint you cmark7, but only the date changed, not the content. See the posts above yours for more details.

 

It's a recurrent symptom. Historically, it's <URL deleted>always not been a symptom of any particular long-term problem.

[sjw]

Looks like the search function has been fixed, which is good.

 

Just out of interest, who would have resolved this, is this done on the AOL side or by someone with the ODP?

[jimnoble]

AOL. Editors don't have access to the code or servers.

[ForexAbode]

Domoz Search

 

Even though the database has started getting updated, I believe that DMOZ is still having technical issues. Our site "ForexAbode" has been there for quite some time under Business: Investing: Commodities and Futures: Forex: Research and Analysis but never comes under search results even after multiple database updates.

[lmocr]

Technicians are aware of the issue and are working on it.