Web Templates section editor should be replaced

[Tmonster]

Hello friends.
Our website www.templatemonster.com has very old and outdated description. It says that it is a division of another company. We've submited about 20 requests during this year about editing the description, I've even personally emailed to the editor of the section. Nothing has been changed at all.
We didn't get any reply. I'm watching the Web templates section regularly and can say that the editor of "Computers: Graphics: Web: Templates" section doesn't work. He needs to be replaced with the new one.

Mods please take the appropriate actions. And please suggest how to change the description of our listing.

[pvgool]

A lot of misunderstandings. I think our FAQ can help you understand how ODP works.

And while you a reading the faq. Please stop suggesting all the deeplinks, affiliates and mirrors.

If you want to suggest a change you can only do so in the proper way , the "update listing" at the top of the category.

[Tmonster]

Well I did that at least 5 times this year. And never got any reply back. And I didn't understand your words about "deeplinks, affiliates and mirrors." All I tried to do is to change the information to the CORRECT and USEFUl for the visitors.

If the descriptions says false information about the ownership of project I don't think it's an appropriate way to provide the visitors relevant information to their needs.

[arubin]

If "you"'re not a division of Inverse Logic, you should complain to them. They say you are.

[wjcampbe]

The website company information itself says it is a part of artvertex inc.

[bobrat]

The web site says they are a part of Callaway Alliance, Inc

and they in turn are owned by http://www.topspeedweb.com/

http://www.prleap.com/pr/8471/

There is a discussion in http://www.webhostingtalk.com/ from December that mentions Inverse Logic, Inc. and artvertex inc. and discussed some of the confusion around what company this really is.

[gimmster]

I didn't understand your words about "deeplinks, affiliates and mirrors."

As one of the larger affiliate companies I'm amazed you don't understand that.

The description was right when it was written - in your staffs own words, http://www.hostsearch.com/interview/..._interview.asp , "TemplateMonster started as a subdivision of Inverse-Logic, Inc "
What I couldn't find anywhere was information about that subdivision being sold or bought out.

If you want a factual error corrected then use the 'update' feature, don't try to change the rest of the Title/Description at the same time - the keyword loaded requests (and I have never seen any of your requests, I speak from experience or the ones I have done), get whacked for trying to add keywords, title repeats, moves to incorrect categories, etc., and any factual corrections may get 'tossed out with the bathwater' so to speak. If you want to change several things, do the factual error as a seperate update, and say why it is a factual error in the reason field. Don't try to change anything else at the same time.

However, make sure the 'facts' can be verified.

2c

[Tmonster]

Look at copyright message in the bottom, and in About us section. TM belongs to Artvertex, Inc for 2 years already. But anyway thanks for the info. I caught your point. Will try to use the update feature and if it won't help I'll let you know.

Thanks again for the assistance.

P.S. I understand what affiliates are, since I've created probably one of the largest affiliate network in the web, just was wondering how it was related to my question

[bobrat]

A trace back indicates a large number of "associated" template sites owned by the same company have been submiited to ODP, and refused by editors. There is a clear record of abuse by submiiting "mirror" sites.

From what I can figure out - based on the version of English being used in the posts from the owner - here and in other forums - the holding company behind all this is either Russian or Ukranian.

[bobrat]

Your site says ArtVertex, Inc. in the About and Copyright © 2002-2005 Callaway Alliance, Inc. on the bottom of the pages.

[Tmonster]

Well I don't know anything about so called associated websites. If you take a closer look to our affiliate program you will understand that it allows everyone to create its private brand template shop owned by yourself.

So we can't control what website owners do with their websites (can't trace their submissions to ODP etc.).

As for Artvertex and Callaway there are 2 different companies owned by the same group of investors. So please leave that up to themselves.

The initial question was regarding the wrong description for the site. I would leave it as is but since Google is using it in it's snippets :
http://www.google.com/search?q=flash...en-US:official
we get several complaints a day from the customers. I just submitted the "Update listing" reguest, mods please approve it and close this thread.

[spectregunner]

I just submitted the "Update listing" reguest, mods please approve it and close this thread.

It will get reviewed, by an editor, at an appropriate (for us) time.

We do not go off and do things in the directory simply because someone in this forum tells us to do so.

[spectregunner]

Well I don't know anything about so called associated websites. If you take a closer look to our affiliate program you will understand that it allows everyone to create its private brand template shop owned by yourself.

So we can't control what website owners do with their websites (can't trace their submissions to ODP etc.).

No, you cannot control what others do, but you most certainly could make it part of the terms and conditions of their affiliation that they not submit any such website to DMOZ.

But that is not in your self interest, so I suspect it will never happen.

[Tmonster]

No, you cannot control what others do, but you most certainly could make it part of the terms and conditions of their affiliation that they not submit any such website to DMOZ.

But that is not in your self interest, so I suspect it will never happen.

Actually, you are wrong. I would do that with pleasure. As we restrict using black SEO tactics to promote affiliate websites. But you know, there are some affiliate websites which just insert template sections on their site (i.e. http://dotster.com/design/index.php), some of them are very large and serious - we can't tell them what to do.

The problem is that every second SEO tutorial or manual says "submit your site to ODP"
I guess that brings most problems with submissions.
Another note, we've never received any suggestions from ODP about this issue so we didn't know it before I post here. We can't restrict the submission but can recommend afiliates not to submit websites, which are based only on affiliate shop scripts - I'm gonna manage this tomorrow.
Will post here the result to demonstrate our respect to ODP and its stuff.

[motsa]

Thank you. That would be very considerate of you.

As for Artvertex and Callaway there are 2 different companies owned by the same group of investors. So please leave that up to themselves.

The reason he mentioned that is because you told us to "Look at copyright message in the bottom, and in About us section." and, unfortunately, your copyright message and About page don't agree with one another. Makes it hard for us to make any kind of determination.